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	<description>I don't care care what you think, as long as it's about me</description>
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		<title>Comment on Olbermann by barb</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/11/11/olbermann/#comment-40557</link>
		<dc:creator>barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one can limit how much we love, and I wouldn't rely on the government to validate my relationships.
Also, a change in a law doesn't equal social acceptance and lack of discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one can limit how much we love, and I wouldn&#8217;t rely on the government to validate my relationships.<br />
Also, a change in a law doesn&#8217;t equal social acceptance and lack of discrimination.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olbermann by Paul</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/11/11/olbermann/#comment-39928</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact I dont think any of the article focused on the paper, but the symbolic meaning of marriage and two people in love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact I dont think any of the article focused on the paper, but the symbolic meaning of marriage and two people in love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olbermann by Paul</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/11/11/olbermann/#comment-39926</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all, but it represents a legitimization of love between two people in the eyes of the government.  Civil unions are a very silly compromise with "separate but equal" at its core.  Why do we need more discrimination in this world?  Marriage between two individuals in no way threatens the original meaning of the world.  We just need more love and acceptance in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all, but it represents a legitimization of love between two people in the eyes of the government.  Civil unions are a very silly compromise with &#8220;separate but equal&#8221; at its core.  Why do we need more discrimination in this world?  Marriage between two individuals in no way threatens the original meaning of the world.  We just need more love and acceptance in the world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olbermann by barb</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/11/11/olbermann/#comment-39911</link>
		<dc:creator>barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A piece of paper equals love?  I don't think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A piece of paper equals love?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is being gay immoral? by Wondering</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/02/29/is-being-gay-immoral/#comment-36608</link>
		<dc:creator>Wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nEo: 

I respect that, the act of homosexuality is immortal, so what are gay people supposed to do? abstain from sexual acts? and the real question is, why should they do that? what kind of life will they live if they are told : Its ok that you are gay, but, its not O.K that you want to live your life. 

Anybody has a good answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nEo: </p>
<p>I respect that, the act of homosexuality is immortal, so what are gay people supposed to do? abstain from sexual acts? and the real question is, why should they do that? what kind of life will they live if they are told : Its ok that you are gay, but, its not O.K that you want to live your life. </p>
<p>Anybody has a good answer?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why are women allowed to vote? by Paul</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/10/03/why-are-women-allowed-to-vote/#comment-34195</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was satirical, aiming to parallel conservative view on allowing gay marriage.  Should we change terms to update as time goes by?  Well, women vote now.  They had no political power in Biblical times (save for some Queens and such) so it's kind of a wonder why Christian women vote...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was satirical, aiming to parallel conservative view on allowing gay marriage.  Should we change terms to update as time goes by?  Well, women vote now.  They had no political power in Biblical times (save for some Queens and such) so it&#8217;s kind of a wonder why Christian women vote&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why are women allowed to vote? by Headsvett</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/10/03/why-are-women-allowed-to-vote/#comment-34184</link>
		<dc:creator>Headsvett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me you were being sarcastic?
Woman or man, they are both human
and they can think for themselves, like men.

also, WHITE adult males.....Im not even gonna comment that....

so unless you were being sarcastic (and i really hope) join us in the 21 century.
Its gonna stay that way, deal with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me you were being sarcastic?<br />
Woman or man, they are both human<br />
and they can think for themselves, like men.</p>
<p>also, WHITE adult males&#8230;..Im not even gonna comment that&#8230;.</p>
<p>so unless you were being sarcastic (and i really hope) join us in the 21 century.<br />
Its gonna stay that way, deal with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hospice Care by Shelly</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/09/12/hospice-care/#comment-33066</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rifts between family members is sad, but sometimes that is a road that is traveled, whether one wants to travel on it or not.  You see, when there is a terminally ill family member, and their needs are not placed as the number one priority, disagreements will ensue.  Putting priorities into perspective, that is tough, but relationship risks are there.  Providing dignity, compassion, caring, love and  understanding for some one that is terminally ill comes with costs, and sometimes those costs are other  relationships.  But, the priority should always be for the ill person first, mending other relationships will hopefully follow.  It is called Hope beyond Hope in my book.  The glass is always 1/2 full, until it no longer contains anything.  Sometimes Hope is all you have, and that  is what you hang on to daily.  Keeping that in perspective gives one the will to go on.  This lesson in life is one of the hardest, and until one actually steps into that particular caretaker role, you can not ever grasp the magnitude and the need for continued HOPE &#38; Love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rifts between family members is sad, but sometimes that is a road that is traveled, whether one wants to travel on it or not.  You see, when there is a terminally ill family member, and their needs are not placed as the number one priority, disagreements will ensue.  Putting priorities into perspective, that is tough, but relationship risks are there.  Providing dignity, compassion, caring, love and  understanding for some one that is terminally ill comes with costs, and sometimes those costs are other  relationships.  But, the priority should always be for the ill person first, mending other relationships will hopefully follow.  It is called Hope beyond Hope in my book.  The glass is always 1/2 full, until it no longer contains anything.  Sometimes Hope is all you have, and that  is what you hang on to daily.  Keeping that in perspective gives one the will to go on.  This lesson in life is one of the hardest, and until one actually steps into that particular caretaker role, you can not ever grasp the magnitude and the need for continued HOPE &amp; Love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on McCain vs Obama - Religious Showdown by Andy</title>
		<link>http://bonsaiblog.net/2008/08/17/mccain-vs-obama-religious-showdown/#comment-30891</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the question about "what does a personal relationship with Jesus Christ look like to you?" was not in order and it made me uncomfortable. I suspect it was asked because both have made their faith in such public knowledge, so they felt it was fair game to ask. If one proclaims so, they should probably explain what it means at some point. Honestly, I doubt the sincerity of either of them. Too much of politics is positioning and saying what folks want to hear. I agree too that peoples of all faiths (including the faith of non-faith) make up America and are to be represented and governed. We did have a Jewish American in the last presidential election, we do have a Muslim Congressmen here in Minnesota, and there are scores of elected officials of "no faith," all of which represents or multi-faith culture and population. I have no problem that others have different faith beliefs. I don't demean them, though I may disagree with them on certain issues. I disagree with others that share the same faith I do, there's no reason to be demeaning. I am truly grateful that anyone can run for elected positions in our country and equally grateful that we all get the choice to vote. It's really a thing of beauty at the heart. The upside of some of the biblical principles that are country was founded on is that it makes room for these freedoms and does not insist that we are a one faith nation or people. I'm grateful our country was founded in such a way.

I do think we have to be careful of trying to eliminate all belief and faith influences from our leaders. I don't think it would be possible, but if it were, we would need to be prepared to give up some of the freedoms that we now enjoy that were derived from those faith influences. We would need to be willing to embrace a "nature driven" culture, like the rest of the natural world. For example, we seek to preserve animal rights to live as wild, killing and domineering one another as nature sees fit, the whole circle of life thing. No animal is ever held on trial in the wild for wronging another animal, it's just the order of nature, survival of the fittest, and it's accepted and we seek to preserve it.  However, we don't apply the same logic to mankind. If faith systems and the moral implications of those faith systems are removed, then we are we left only with the natural order, which operates on the basis of the strong overtaking the weak for survival, and that would be the way it is. Yet somehow we know that there should be care for the poor and justice for the oppressed, even when there would no longer be any logical rationale for it. Something tells us humans are held to a different standard and their is intrinsic value in all, just because they are human.

To seek to eliminate all faith from politics, and yet keep hold of the freedoms  that the moral implications that those faith inputs have established, would mean using God for our own selfish advantages. It doesn't seem we can have it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the question about &#8220;what does a personal relationship with Jesus Christ look like to you?&#8221; was not in order and it made me uncomfortable. I suspect it was asked because both have made their faith in such public knowledge, so they felt it was fair game to ask. If one proclaims so, they should probably explain what it means at some point. Honestly, I doubt the sincerity of either of them. Too much of politics is positioning and saying what folks want to hear. I agree too that peoples of all faiths (including the faith of non-faith) make up America and are to be represented and governed. We did have a Jewish American in the last presidential election, we do have a Muslim Congressmen here in Minnesota, and there are scores of elected officials of &#8220;no faith,&#8221; all of which represents or multi-faith culture and population. I have no problem that others have different faith beliefs. I don&#8217;t demean them, though I may disagree with them on certain issues. I disagree with others that share the same faith I do, there&#8217;s no reason to be demeaning. I am truly grateful that anyone can run for elected positions in our country and equally grateful that we all get the choice to vote. It&#8217;s really a thing of beauty at the heart. The upside of some of the biblical principles that are country was founded on is that it makes room for these freedoms and does not insist that we are a one faith nation or people. I&#8217;m grateful our country was founded in such a way.</p>
<p>I do think we have to be careful of trying to eliminate all belief and faith influences from our leaders. I don&#8217;t think it would be possible, but if it were, we would need to be prepared to give up some of the freedoms that we now enjoy that were derived from those faith influences. We would need to be willing to embrace a &#8220;nature driven&#8221; culture, like the rest of the natural world. For example, we seek to preserve animal rights to live as wild, killing and domineering one another as nature sees fit, the whole circle of life thing. No animal is ever held on trial in the wild for wronging another animal, it&#8217;s just the order of nature, survival of the fittest, and it&#8217;s accepted and we seek to preserve it.  However, we don&#8217;t apply the same logic to mankind. If faith systems and the moral implications of those faith systems are removed, then we are we left only with the natural order, which operates on the basis of the strong overtaking the weak for survival, and that would be the way it is. Yet somehow we know that there should be care for the poor and justice for the oppressed, even when there would no longer be any logical rationale for it. Something tells us humans are held to a different standard and their is intrinsic value in all, just because they are human.</p>
<p>To seek to eliminate all faith from politics, and yet keep hold of the freedoms  that the moral implications that those faith inputs have established, would mean using God for our own selfish advantages. It doesn&#8217;t seem we can have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on McCain vs Obama - Religious Showdown by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically you're right about exchanging views and how it's relevant to voter interests.  In a perfect country this would've just been seen as good campaigning.  In our country however we've made it an unfortunately high priority about a candidate's faith.  It's become a hoop to jump through to get a position in office.  I'm not sure if you've seen the video of Mitt Romney walking through a local cafe greeting people.  He gets to this old man who won't even look at him and says "I'm not shaking your hand because you're a mormon.".  Romney of course has to smile and move on, but that's a pretty sad reminder of our religious state.  Even with Christianity being our majority religion, people still don't accept others who are different from them.  Not that acceptance was big in the Bible (wait, it was).  So then that example is one of many that points out how religion could be that much more effective if people understood it and actually followed it instead of just exalting the word 'Christianity' and nothing else.

I'd be much more satisfied if it was an interview done with religious leaders from all over the country to address spiritual matters.  I'd be intrigued and genuinely find that a must-watch.  What I saw however was (or rather heard since I listened from MPR) was political questions intermingled with things like 'How do you express your faith in Jesus Christ?'.  Now if that question doesn't say "religious favoritism" I'm not sure what will.  Where does that put Jewish people?  American Jews are just as much citizens as American Christians.  Yet they don't have a Jewish candidate running in one of the two main parties for President.  This may be satisfying the majority, but that's not justification for alienating a minority.  And especially when in the majority it's easy to forget that.  So I hope you would not demean other people who do not share your beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically you&#8217;re right about exchanging views and how it&#8217;s relevant to voter interests.  In a perfect country this would&#8217;ve just been seen as good campaigning.  In our country however we&#8217;ve made it an unfortunately high priority about a candidate&#8217;s faith.  It&#8217;s become a hoop to jump through to get a position in office.  I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve seen the video of Mitt Romney walking through a local cafe greeting people.  He gets to this old man who won&#8217;t even look at him and says &#8220;I&#8217;m not shaking your hand because you&#8217;re a mormon.&#8221;.  Romney of course has to smile and move on, but that&#8217;s a pretty sad reminder of our religious state.  Even with Christianity being our majority religion, people still don&#8217;t accept others who are different from them.  Not that acceptance was big in the Bible (wait, it was).  So then that example is one of many that points out how religion could be that much more effective if people understood it and actually followed it instead of just exalting the word &#8216;Christianity&#8217; and nothing else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be much more satisfied if it was an interview done with religious leaders from all over the country to address spiritual matters.  I&#8217;d be intrigued and genuinely find that a must-watch.  What I saw however was (or rather heard since I listened from MPR) was political questions intermingled with things like &#8216;How do you express your faith in Jesus Christ?&#8217;.  Now if that question doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;religious favoritism&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure what will.  Where does that put Jewish people?  American Jews are just as much citizens as American Christians.  Yet they don&#8217;t have a Jewish candidate running in one of the two main parties for President.  This may be satisfying the majority, but that&#8217;s not justification for alienating a minority.  And especially when in the majority it&#8217;s easy to forget that.  So I hope you would not demean other people who do not share your beliefs.</p>
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